Sep 24, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Flying Gophers
Profession: Rt/P
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Nightfall Ritualist Skills
Since nobody's really focused on them...I'll highlight a few rit skills and combos I think will sweep the world by storm.
1. Renewing Surge:Target foe is struck for 15...51 lightning damage. If you are holding an item, this Skill recharges instantly.
Comments: It's a fast, easy to spam skill under Attuned Was Songoki. At around 50dps, that's not too bad.
2.Renewing Memories:For 5...17 seconds, while holding an item, any weapon and item Spells you cast cost 5...29% less Energy.
Comments: I think this is amazing, it's like a mini-AwS. But, imagine using it *with* AwS. At 16 Spawning, it lasts 21 seconds, with a 30 recharge.
3.Wielder's Remedy: For 10...26 seconds, whenever you cast a weapon Spell on an ally, that ally loses 1 Condition.
Comments: see above combo, add in Vengeful Weapon.
4.Synergetic Light: Target other ally is healed for 15...75 Health. If you are near a Spirit, you are also healed for 15...75 Health.
Comments: I think it's a pretty good deal. At 16 Resto, it's 95 health.
5.Siphon{E}: Target foe is struck for 15...51 lightning damage. If you are holding an item, you gain 5 energy and 15...51 Health.
Comments: It's 63 at 16. You can use it once every seven seconds...not Uber, but it is at least some self healing for free.
Spirit Strike{E}: Sacrifice 17% maximum Health. Gain 5...13 Energy. If any Spirits are in the area, you do not sacrifice Health.
Comments: It has a 15 second recharge. at 16 Channeling, it restores 16, for a net of 11 energy every 15 seconds. It's like OoB, with less risk.
Anguish: Create a level 1...4 Spirit. This Spirit's attacks deal 5...17 damage and deal double damage to Hexed foes. This Spirit dies after 15...39 seconds.
Comments: Painful Bond comes to mind. It does 21 at 16, so, doubled that would be 41 when hitting a painful bonded enemy. Plus the damage from the bond. Nice.
So, I'm pretty pumped about the new skills I'll definately try a channelling Rit now. Also, I'm seeing some pretty cool secondary rit options opening up.
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Sep 25, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: Me/Rt
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A Chanelling Rit can go really far in RA if you get the right team. The skill that most excites me is Synergetic Light.
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Sep 25, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: Rt/Me
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offtopic, I think they have the name of Syphon and Spirit Strike mixed up.
P.s. Weilders Zeal is going to be ftw imo
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Sep 25, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: RA
Guild: [ODIN]
Profession: N/Mo
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I'm excited about trying a bar-handed chaneller. I've been messing w/ Atuned was Songkai and Chanelled Strike. Renewing Surge seems like it's going to be on my bar when Nightfall releases.
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Sep 25, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Netherlands
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Well i'm not much of a fan of the channeling thing, but anguish in combination with pain, bloodsong and painful bond works pretty good. On the other hand i don't see a use for Signet of Might, 10 seconds is just too little...
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Sep 25, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55
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#6
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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I'm disappointed that restoration didn't really get much. The only binding ritual is Recovery (conditions expire faster). Synergistic Light is decent (heal other + heal self - if near spirit). Vocal Was Sologon (chants/shouts last longer) is for paragons. Weapon of Remedy (Vengeful Weapon + condition removal) has some possibilities, but weapons have the drawback of not being stackable making their use very limited. You might be able to make a decent protection build based on Weapon of Remedy, Vengeful Weapon, and Weapon of Warding/Resilient Weapon and then throw in some heals. I guess my hope is that they will duplicate some skills and they haven't shown them yet.
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Sep 26, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Heroes and Nemesis
Profession: Rt/
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theres a new skill ot get rid or even add to vengeful farming ^_-
full rit 55ing could be possible cuz im pretty sure its not a weapon skill like vengeful...same ol 8 secs tho
pain anguish bloodsong will make nicely for bombers
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Sep 26, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Room V
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Wielder's Zeal has great potential, but having it in spawning power kind of sucks. Sounds more like a communing skill to me.
Xinrae's Weapon will have some use in RA/TA, and crafty people will find a way to work it into GvG/HA as well, maybe on a secondary.
Wielder's Strike+Weapon of Quickening could be worked into a Channeling build, I just never got around to trying it until I noticed the skill after the event was over.
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Sep 26, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Room V
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EDIT: Double post.
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Sep 26, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Good question
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Not to exciting i was hoping for better but anguish is a nice add to a spirit bomber and if it came to a 1v1 battle with a boss u could probably take it down easily. Channeling is yet again not impressive although weapon of fury might be a nice warrior skill because of the no way of removal. About 4 skills for restoration and only 2 are that nice. (weapon of remedy and synergetic light) Im wishing spirits strength wasnt spawning. Feast of creation is nice for a restoration build because of high cost of recuperation. Essence could be nice coupled with AwS. Theres my 2 cents...
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Sep 27, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Cookie Cutter [FTW]
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My only problem is that ritulists didn't need al those sucky elites. Most of them needed to have their effects lowered and elite status removed.
As far as signet of might >.<. love the idea, but after the bug fix it sucked imo
10 seconds.. i understand that casting this on pain. and then casting painful bond can lead to alot of dmg on one spirit... but its not nearly enough to scare anyone off. and or doenst last long enough .
I wouldn't replace wanderlust with this in otherwards..
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: None, free and clear
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Rits didnt get any good elites, impo, same with Me. Least Eles and Monks got a couple of very good elites. And Necros... well, they got all the cool stuff, they barely have 1-2 so-so elites, rest is rightout amazing.
I guess you can argue some usability for Sig of Might and Xinrae's Wep. But that pretty much sums it up. RL and VwK are still my fav elites. NF doesn't look like it plans on changing that.
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Oct 10, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2006
Profession: Rt/A
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Speaking of New skills, what the heck is up with Sight Beyond Sight, that prevents Rits from suffering from blindness, i mean Rits are CASTERS, and i dont recall the skill description saying anything like "target ally" in it. Has anybody got screen cap of new skills or anything?
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Oct 11, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Cookie Cutter [FTW]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyrashti Dv
Speaking of New skills, what the heck is up with Sight Beyond Sight, that prevents Rits from suffering from blindness, i mean Rits are CASTERS, and i dont recall the skill description saying anything like "target ally" in it. Has anybody got screen cap of new skills or anything?
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Lol i think its another tip to the melee rit. IF you didn't notice, many skills seem almost designed to encourage melee use of the rit. I've tried to get melee rits to work, but tehy simply dont have the dmg output. With spirits strength in Restoration they wont have the defense to go with it. maybe a bow ritulist?
The ritulist doesn't mesh very well outside of spawning. ANyone whos tried to use channeling will know thats its not very effective compared to an Ele, ritulist spells just have too many secondary requirements must be under the effect of a weapon, must be in the area of a spirit,
( a sure sign of a crappy skill, just take spirit light weapon, consume soul, two awsomely crappy elites, both of which have normal skill counter parts that put them to shame)
THe ritulist just doesnt really do anything well outside of spamming spirits, defensive or offensive. I know some people will say OMG channeling awsome dps over time! but without 2+ spirit backup channeling is worthless as hell.
Striking for 30-50 dmg on rangers and most wars. And only a threat to squishies with no monk protection ( which never happens outside of RA)
REstoration is a bit better. It makes up for lack of protection with high point heals and good use of resiliant weapon or weapon of warding combined with recuperation to make some decent regen.
weapons not being stackable , and not being able to attack through items takes away sooo many possiblilities. I would rather items act as a focus, being one handed, in other words you'd lose the magical effects to your item without losing 20/20 FC FR time on your weap. ALso you could really think of some melee rit builds if this were the case.
make weapons stackable up to 2, this way you could actually have protection combos. weapon of warding and resiliant weapon, venful weapon and weapon of renewal.
the rit is limited because of of his unfortuante having to rely on spirits to be nearby, The "in the Area" affect manes that the skill is basicly confined to be used only for yoruself, because rarely do you want you melee guys ontop of youspirits.
any wyas /rant
i liek ritulits, but they are made just barely over the edge unworkable. a little to short duration, here, to low an aoe there. ritulist will always be my favorite class, because of how underused it is outside of spirit spam. when nightfall comes i have a hard time seeing the ritulist really remaing around,
he'll have to jion up wiht the dervrish at teh bar of unuse so to speak.
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Oct 11, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38
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#15
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Zealand
Profession: Me/R
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for future reference, it's spelt channeler.
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Originally Posted by Kyrashti Dv
Speaking of New skills, what the heck is up with Sight Beyond Sight, that prevents Rits from suffering from blindness, i mean Rits are CASTERS, and i dont recall the skill description saying anything like "target ally" in it. Has anybody got screen cap of new skills or anything?
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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rituali...uick_reference
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Originally Posted by unmatchedfury
THe ritulist just doesnt really do anything well outside of spamming spirits, defensive or offensive. I know some people will say OMG channeling awsome dps over time! but without 2+ spirit backup channeling is worthless as hell.
Striking for 30-50 dmg on rangers and most wars. And only a threat to squishies with no monk protection ( which never happens outside of RA)
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I have played a Channeler since a month after the games release, and I'll tell you, it was powerful even before they got their buff. One spirit is fine and in most cases a Channeler can outopower an ele. I have played channeling builds in TA and HA, they are effective in play. I got 30+ wins in TA accompanied with a Channeler.
Last edited by Terra Xin; Oct 11, 2006 at 04:40 AM // 04:40..
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Oct 12, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Cookie Cutter [FTW]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
for future reference, it's spelt channeler.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rituali...uick_reference
I have played a Channeler since a month after the games release, and I'll tell you, it was powerful even before they got their buff. One spirit is fine and in most cases a Channeler can outopower an ele. I have played channeling builds in TA and HA, they are effective in play. I got 30+ wins in TA accompanied with a Channeler.
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What the name of your rit? if you wouldn't mind a friendly one vs one sometime. I'm betting an Air ele can take you out.
i agree the rit can keep channeling spells going longer but im dismissive of the idea that they do more spike dmg.
they are viable, but they aren't quite as multi talented as an ele is while still doing dmg atm.
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Oct 17, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: None, free and clear
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unmatchedfury
they are viable, but they aren't quite as multi talented as an ele is while still doing dmg atm.
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What Rits aren't multi-talanted? As compared to Eles? Is this some form of irony I'm not getting?
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Oct 17, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: European Union
Guild: The Amazon Basin
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Not to mention, 1-on-1's are moot in a team game. I'd love to see a BL monk vs resto rit 1-on-1... that could take a whiiiiiiile (like, see who falls asleep and gets wanded to death first ).
I've seen some nice multi-rit team builds recently that included a channeler - and they actually gain energy while nuking. I think it'll be a while until they make it into GvG, but it'll happen. Deffo.
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Oct 28, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: las vegas, nv
Guild: none
Profession: E/Mo
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I've noticed something else which makes me happy. Is Spirit's Gift a Factions skill or Nightfall? I never saw it before Elona. In any case, if you ever run a Rt/N explosive creation build in PvE, there is a great skill, I think , added to the Rt called Spirits Gift: 10e 1sec 45 sec., For 60 sec enchantment whenever you create a creature all allies near that creature gain 50 hp(spawn @ 15) + 1 condition removed. You can potentially HEAL others 100 hp(spawn @ 15) per pair of minions and heal yourself(with B-o-C). I would substitute Spirit's Gift for Creation Signet, which I don't use that much anyway while Rt/m-b. I have not been playing any other kind of Rt lately(spirit Rt), so I don't know immediately any other specific applications(rt builds). Peace.
Patrick
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Oct 29, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Zealand
Profession: Me/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unmatchedfury
What the name of your rit? if you wouldn't mind a friendly one vs one sometime. I'm betting an Air ele can take you out.
i agree the rit can keep channeling spells going longer but im dismissive of the idea that they do more spike dmg.
they are viable, but they aren't quite as multi talented as an ele is while still doing dmg atm.
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Daughter of Zuuyun (named after the elite skill before it was renamed Destructive was Glaive), and it would be an honour to challenge you^^. you can PM me whenever, i'll make time^^.
Spirit's Gift is definately a Nightfall skill.
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